about file "firefox.xn"
Greetings,
Thank you for this excellent product.
My question is :
I have recorded and exported a "firefox.xn" file with a password.
When I open with text editor, it looks like
<code>
[---<info>---]
j9QaVf39/f1WwgUVvhZtMvaagPo9iMNK
[---<preferences>---]
accounts.[gmail# (name of account) gmail.com].showFolders 2 true
etc
etc
QgxOV8PeJY
[------]
</code>
Is there a way to "read" all the mail password logins?
I would like to save them on paper, of course I can do it manually,
but if I have entered all credentials properly, then saved properly with password the firefox.xn file,
I would be interested to know if I can look at passwords.
Thank you for the reply
Best regards
N.O.
jeroen
Wed, 04/01/2015 - 04:13
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Really ???
And what is, in your view, the purpose of a password?
Of course, you are welcome to publish all your passwords on the web, if you choose so...
Now, how's that for an idea 8-)
CFBancroft
Wed, 04/01/2015 - 10:56
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Can look at old forum that we already discuss.
http://xnotifier.tobwithu.com/dp/node/1109
(several topics discuss)
http://xnotifier.tobwithu.com/dp/node/1054
(recover password, that you (nonogm) are look for it?)
If yes, you (nonogm) can look at password, with smile.
@jeroen, I think you misunderstood what they (nonogm) trying to say.
RpD
Wed, 04/01/2015 - 20:57
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No, no....no
You are exporting all your necessary account info to one little file... so that file is encrypted.
If it was viewable, then it would be vulnerable and could be stolen, hacked, whatever.
Only UNsecure programs will save UNencrypted password files... that's just foolish.
- The password used to save the export file is to prevent just anybody stealing the exported file and then IMporting it to their own X-Notifier... then they'd have access to all your accounts. Instead, they have to have the EXport password to IMport the file.
... If the account passwords were viewable in the exported file, you wouldn't need to password it... the file could be stolen and anyone could just read the file to see all your account logins/passwords... which pretty much defeats the purpose of having a password to EXport/IMport the file.
Jeroen has it right... if a little sarcastic ;) ...but the original post was just about what would be called 'oxymoronic' (sorry)... contradicting itself ...when the poster said he saved/passworded the file and then wanted to read the passwords inside the passworded file. You can't... that's part of the procedure/reason for passwording the file.
The forum conversations referenced in the link in CFBancroft's post gives some instruction for using Firefox's Master Password to view Firefox's saved passwords (X-Notifier uses Firefox's security services to save passwords). If you can't copy/paste that displayed text (Firefox's list of accounts/passwords), you can do a screen capture to save an image. If you're using Windows, you can use the Snipper tool. And...
...if you save that on your computer or print them out... then you are making them available for someone to steal that UNencrypted copy. Not a good idea. Better just to refer to Firefox's saved passwords... using the Master Password ...when the need arises.
- I don't know if there's some easy way to backup an encrypted copy of Firefox's passwords file... easily viewable files are not a good way... it's like using Post-It Notes to stick them on your computer screen.
jeroen
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 08:52
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Well
@nonogm: RpD explained it full scale (as expected and respected ;-) ). I was just expecting my sarcasm would open up your eyes without spending to much text space on such an obvious matter. No disrespect intended. I admit to be guilty of a sense of humor. I was just handling it light-hearted.
RpD
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 11:36
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>;}
>;}
CFBancroft
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 13:58
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Long story to short...
I thanks to RpD for long explain...
CIA, FBI, and NSA can access your password on Safari, Chrome and Opera...
I will NOT teach you how to access... Just keep to myself...
Not fault on X-notifer to open password... actually program (SF/CH/OP) are STINK!
While all Mozilla software FF/TB/SM will protect your Password when you turn it 'ON'
Preference>Securtiy(tab)[X] Use a master password and Saved Passwords...
CIA, FBI, and NSA can NOT access your password and even ME!
(While SF/CH/OP do NOT have features.)
BIG IF...
SF/CH/OP have built in "User a master password", that will be great...
BUT they (SF/CH/OP) do NOT... WHY?
SF/CH/OP want to help CIA, FBI, and NSA...
While Mozilla do NOT want to help CIA, FBI, and NSA!
A little note... for RpD and jeron...
I "guess" that nonogm had a problem or bad memory (ALZ?) on their password,
that why they need to view for their future reference...
I just guide them to see their password on Firefox's master password (that's good job on Mozilla.)
While can't see Firefox.xn (that's good job on Tobwithu's X-notifier.)
Talk about "sarcasm"... I am guilty too... Smile.
RpD
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 22:23
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!!
(looking for my tinfoil hat... and my 1024096 bit encrypter)
sigh
:) ;) >;}
nonogm
Sun, 08/02/2015 - 20:47
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meanwhile, 4 months later...
Bonjour
Je vois que vous avez beaucoup d'humour, le sarcasme est-il tellement l'humour des gens désespérés que vous ne donniez aucune autre réponse que des commentaires absolument inutiles?
Pour votre information, ma demande est simple :
j'ai plusieurs comptes
les comptes ont des mots de passe définis qui sont différents
j'ai confiance en .xn et il me rend service
En revanche si je me connecte depuis un autre ordinateur que le mien, je n'ai pas accès à .xn parce qu'il n'est pas toujours installé comme module supplémentaire.
Ce qui signifie que je ne peux pas accéder à mes comptes parce que je ne suis pas comme certains qui passent leur vie devant leur écran, connectés 24h/24 et qui restent en permanence avec leur comptes "ouvert".
Voilà. Merci pour les hors-sujet, merci pour les conseils, merci pour... rien.
And Save the Children in Donbass!
RpD
Sun, 08/02/2015 - 22:27
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Well...
nonogm...
I think the answer is simple (and you're not going to like it): No... X-Notifier's password backup file is password encrypted... you can't read it.
Sorry, but that's the whole purpose of encryption via password... protection so that people cannot read it, only the program is supposed to be able to read it ...so that your saved passwords on your computer are protected from hackers.
So... yes, you are correct, you will have to create your account/password summary list manually... either by writing them down by hand, or create a text file and enter them all, or by screen captures of the Firefox password viewer... then use that list on your mobile, on 'the cloud', or print that out so you can take it with you when you are not using your own computers.
With Firefox, you should be able to view your saved passwords (but cannot easily copy them or print them out)... when viewing a list of several passwords, you could take a picture (screen capture) if you want to avoid writing them all out... and print that picture. If there are more than about 10 saved passwords, then you'll need to take several screen captures, and then you could insert them in a word processor page to print them all out. If you save the word processor document... you should encrypt it, or those passwords will be unprotected on your computer.
To view Saved Passwords in Firefox... go to the Tools menu, Options, Security, and click Saved Passwords... there you will be able to view about 10 passwords at a time... and scroll down for more.
X-Notifier is not a password manager... there are programs dedicated to that, and I don't know if they allow you to print out a summary list of all your usernames/passwords, to carry around with you.
Maybe we were a bit hard on you... you did not explain in the first post that you needed to carry a summary list with you. I did put a bit of effort in my reply to explain some things for you... but you really should know that you cannot simply view an encrypted/passworded file.
- You have to decrypt it... and X-Notifier only encrypts/decrypts as a backup procedure, for the X-Notifier program's use... not for users to view, which is -not- secure and would defeat the whole purpose of encrypting/passwording.
Perhaps -your- computers are safe and secure, but X-Notifier cannot assume that will be so for everyone/anyone.
And no, we aren't connected 24 hours a day with all our accounts open... for us, X-Notifier uses the Firefox Password Manager's encrypted password file to open our accounts as we need them. We have to use Firefox's viewer to see the passwords, X-Notifier uses Firefox's password security features to use your passwords, also.
The X-Notifier backup, firefox.xn, is just an (encrypted) backup, to use to move/restore the accounts within X-Notifier... not to view.
I hope the suggestions above for creating a summary list are helpful.
I hope that you do not store that list insecurely... or lose it, or get hacked.
Adieu.
RpD
Sun, 08/02/2015 - 22:28
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Translation of nonogm's post to English
Hello
I see that you have a lot of humor... the sarcasm, is it so the humor of desperate people... that you give no other answer than the comments absolutely unnecessary?
For your information, my request is simple:
I have several accounts... the accounts have passwords defined which are different
I have confidence in .xn and it renders me a service... on the other hand, if i am connected from another computer than mine, I do not have access to .xn because it is not always installed as additional module...
...Which means that I cannot access my accounts because I am not like some who spend their lives in front of their screen, connected 24(hours a day) and which remain permanently with their accounts "open".
There it is. Thank you for the off-topic, thank you for the advice, thank you for ... nothing.
nonogm
Thu, 08/13/2015 - 03:33
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Well thank you - Merci RpD's
Well thank you - Merci
RpD's you gave me the hint thru firefox "show password"
hence you have responded to my question.
Have a great day,
And Save the Children in Donbass!
Non Ogm